Dear Gracie II, Or; How To Miss The Point, AgainPosted By: Barry Belmont

Dear Gracie.

Diagnosis Part I. The Problem.

What is that thing called where one points out one’s faults in another person? It’s taught in Psych 101 classes. Oh what’s it called? From Wikipedia: Psychological projection [...] is the unconscious act of denial of a person’s own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have the same feelings or motives, rather than what they really think. Yeah, that’s what you’ve got. Not being a psychologist (and the first to admit it!), I would say my diagnosis of you is rudimentary at best, but one does not need to be an otorhinolaryngologist to see the nose right in front of you.

Diagnosis Part II. The Signs.

1. You posted a 450+ word response less than one hour after the original 1000+ word letter was written. I guess my suggestion to “Please spend more time thinking about your responses than typing them. Gut reactions are not befitting you.” was taken with the seriousness I expected it to be.

2. You either knowingly misrepresented my position or failed to grasp it to begin with. I didn’t say there is “only” right and wrong in the world. Rather I said that right and wrong exist (knowing full-well that there are innumerable issues which do not fall into this dichotomy: there exists, after all, shades of grey)…which is a rather innocuous statement of reality if you think about it. (For instance, there either is a moon or there isn’t one.)

3. You kept harping on a point that is pointless to this discussion: it doesn’t matter if the VisLupiKids got their racial facts wrong about the U Commy. I. Do. Not. Care. I am not defending the VisLupes, nor their position, that has nothing to do with my letter. In it I claimed that you constantly dodge issues (“How To Miss The Point”) which your response is yet another example of and that your position with respect to “diversity” is misguided.

4. You constructed me as a straw man and said I am “not open to new ideas and dialogue.” And what evidence do you have to support this opinion? If you were too busy lacing your good points (cultural diversity brings about a greater understanding of humanity in general) with meandering B.S. (seriously a whole paragraph, rehashing what your original comment said?) then it’d be much easier to engage in important issues seriously with you. But instead watch how easy it is to make your claim: You, Gracie, are not open to new ideas and dialogue, and that offends me.

5. You claim that you ‘don’t close [your] mind and think [you're] the “right” and everything else is the “wrong” ‘. Well no one but a fool would agree with that statement. You do, in fact, think you are right. Everyone does. Anyone who doesn’t think their opinion is right and act on that assumption simply doesn’t. And no one thinks “everything else is wrong in society.” That’s just asinine.

6. You then say that I am doing the same offensive thing as you are. Though apparently my way of “classifying” doesn’t seem to rely on the bigoted notion of skin color and instead relies on the merit of opinions and ideas… Even if this were true, you’re just making me sound better here, and you sound worse. Though now that you mention it, what exactly is wrong on judging people’s opinions based on the merit of their propositions?

7. You end by brushing over your errors and “admitting” to them while simultaneously insinuating that I cannot. Having obviously never attended a SFL meeting where I often discover my position to be wrong, I’d say you’re just swatting at a straw man again. But whatever, get your rocks off in the comment section of UNR-based websites you callow little thing.

The Diagnosis Part III. The Symptoms.

You are a bad defender of your poor positions. You lack any insight into anything that I would be interested in. You make meaningless claims on meaningless subjects. You have a knack for hollowing words of their significances and leaving them as so much dead pixels splayed across a screen. When you do manage to infuse some kind of point into your speeches, it is rarely a point you would be proud to make (such as being seen as racist, when, in all likelihood, you are not). You project all of your own arguments’ flaws onto your opponent. You defend positions no one criticizes and completely glean over those which others have problems with. You are good at what you do, problem is that what you do is bad.

The Diagnosis Part IV. The Solution?

Once again, I’m not a doctor. I have no valid medical opinion. I have very few valid opinions. In fact, all of the evidence I have presented is open to interpretation. But as I see it, you have no idea what I am driving at nor any idea how you should feel about it. Rather than careful consideration to pertinent arguments, you’d rather spam the internet with your dribble babble NonSpeak like an internet troll gone bureacratically berserk with power.

To remedy this I suggest you either a) pull your head out of your ass in order to better see, hear, and understand the world or b) leave issues you know little about alone, perhaps to revisit at another time when you are more knowledgeable about the topic.

As a side note, if you’re “actually really interested in” my opinion about race, think briefly about how ass-backward the statement “Some people are proud of their heritage” really is… Don’t see anything wrong with it? Well, consider that “Some people” doesn’t just mean Mexicans at a fiesta or Japanese people drinking tea on their floors or Indians doing a rain dance, it also means neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, the Black Panthers, and Muslim terrorists. There is nothing to be “proud” of based on your skin color or your religion or your gender or your social, political, or economic upbringing. It’s luck of the draw: just because someone thinks they were born with a royal flush doesn’t mean they aren’t just a royal pain in the ass.

Finally, consider the simple example my dad related to me: what about a blind man who can’t see any of this “diversity.” What then? There are no “black” or “brown” or “white” people to him. Is he supposed to feel for the crosses and stars of David and ankh’s on people’s necklaces to determine their religion? Must he grope for breasts to determine gender?

Put yourself in his place for a day, Gracie. Try to feel how much better the world is when you stop trying to categorize others and realize we’re all just hurtling around this big ol’ universe on a tiny rock. We’re not men, we’re not women, we’re not white nor black nor brown, we’re not Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, we’re not vegetarians and meat-eaters, not gay or straight, not the differences that divide us. We’re just people.

We’re 99+% of the same genetic stuff. It’s time we start acting that way.

I mean it this time,
Barry Belmont

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Dear Gracie, Or; How To Miss The PointPosted By: Barry Belmont

Dear Gracie,

I read what you write sometimes. Whether it’s on the Sagebrush website or your failed Senate blog or (more recently) on the VisLupiGang’s blog, I read your stuff. I read your stuff and I am appalled. Appalled sometimes at the grammar and syntactical structure. Appalled sometimes at the use of overly passive aggressive langauge. Appalled at all those idiosyncratic personality quibbles that make you and I unrelatable to one another — I seek to destroy that which you seek to maintain. But lately I am appalled at the utter pointlessness of your remarks.

On the ViLuEsGre blog, in the comments, you said something to the chagrin of:

In talking about diversity, you only talked about race and gender, not other things like socioeconomic status or sexual orientation.

Implying that “diversity” is  not “only” made up of “race and gender” but also “socioeconomic status” and “sexual orientation.” A perfectly reasonable position. When people talk about the concept of “diversity” in regards to “diversity initiatives” in colleges and workplaces they generally mean to include such things as race, gender, socioeconomic status, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, etc… Nothing wrong with that definition. You then went on to state:

You also didn’t even analyze the races close to what they would have classified themselves [...] Furthermore, you have not listed or analyzed the entire Unity Commission, as three (to my knowledge) are not listed– which consist of two males and a female, all of different ethnicities.

Regarding the “races” of the Unity Commission’s members. And while it’s a mangling of phrasing, your meaning is fairly intuitive: the article you’re commenting on misrepresented the amount of “diversity” (in this case, in the form of “racial diversity”) in the U Commy, a fact that can easily be born out by the the evidence. You hold that there is a fair amount of racial diversity in the U Commy and this is a good thing. You then go on to say something about Republicans and end by saying:

you should probably do a bit more research, before trying to label somebody a specific race–you should probably also take other diversity classifications into account, and then, maybe, you could have an argument.

Now, I don’t see the big, important, F-ing deal with the determination of specific “races” because as a biology major (and born after 1967) I know the term “race” has no real meaning except as a way to put people into arbitrarily different groups, but hey, to each their own. Let those who want to call this person White and this one Black and this one Brown have their way and say so to their hearts’ content.

After you, an anonymous poster, Not Gracie, had this to say to you in response:

In other words, “See, there are brown colored people in the commission. And poor people. And men. And probably some gays, too!”

Honestly, do you realize how incredibly offensive you sound Gracie?

I don’t see myself disagreeing with Not Gracie. I mean, granted Not Gracie put it a little more blatantly than you, but ultimately you were claiming that there were enough shades of skin color on the U Com to be of a satisfactory diversification. Some people might take offense to these kinds of claims, I  mean, after all, why is racial diversity important? Isn’t it just sort of a new form of segregation? Separate but equal? Equal and separate? It is just a way to say You are DIFFERENT from Me in a SIGNIFICANT way.

But ever the responder to That Which It Is Better To Not Respond To, you, Gracie, retorted to Not Gracie with:

Offensive? [...] I’m not taking a stance on whether race, gender, etc define diversity, as I’m fully aware that’s what the Unity Commission is trying to combat. Labels (like sexual orientation, race, gender, etc.) don’t soley [sic] make a person/group “diverse,” by any means.

I urge you to go back and read your words as this is precisely what you did (the first quote, and the bold portion of the third). But as if this wasn’t enough you made the statement regarding the raging debates about “diversity” that prompted this letter to you:

I’m not agreeing with any argument.

You might as well say “Chicken tastes good and I like to eat it because of it” while discussing what color to paint your house. Every statement must be for or against some position if it is to be of any use at all. You either have something of merit to bring to the conversation in which case your opinion will be critiqued or you have nothing to add to an argument and you just shut the hell up. Either you think diversity involves all the things you claim it does or it doesn’t. There is only one right answer on that matter.

So, Gracie, I leave you with three things to think about:

1. Your remarks were offensive as they uphold the notion that there is such a thing as race. The entire notion of racial identity is sickening and antiquated. It promotes bigotry and elitism in equal amounts. It makes of people both criminals and victims. Racism can only exist when there are “races” upon which people can misplace their frustrations and hatred.

2. There exists right and wrong in this world. You and I hold mutually exclusive positions on a great many things. For each of these positions only one of us is right, the other is wrong. I think “diversity” as a concept is pointless and hurtful. If you think anything other than that, then only one of us will be right on this issue. I am not so presumptuous to assume it’s me, but I am aware it is not both of us.

3. Please spend more time thinking about your responses than typing them. Gut reactions are not befitting you. You make careless mistakes, you play yourself as an unknowing victim, you often only respond by saying Well, if you come meet with me or come to the senate meetings (as if many of us gave enough rats’ asses to waste our time with such trivialities), and rather than let any criticism soak in and take to heart, you immediately dismiss it and let it glide off you like rain from a duck’s behind.

Let this mix and marinate with your brain juices for awhile.

Rather insincerely,
Barry Belmont

P.S. Thanks VisLupiGang for the recent kinda-nice post about us.

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Debbie Downer Finds Bigger DownerPosted By: John Russell

“Poor nicotine addicted people shall be forced to subsidize college students in the name of social responsibility.  It shall take the form as the “Millennium Scholarship” and for other purposes…”  - “Social Contract”Chapter IV, Title A, Section 3 –  Revised Std. XVI – Ratified by: ‘Society’

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SFL Secures Nearly Four Grand to Abolish ASUN… Courtesy of ASUNPosted By: John Russell

Tune in to nearly 7 minutes of awkward silence as the commission ultimately decides to sponsor our Abolish ASUN festival. Some items of interest include: ponies, horses, bounce houses, a mechanical bull, JCSU staff, pizza oh my! Oh, and who can forget the 13 foot banner which will read: ABOLISH ASUN FESTIVAL (Sponsored by ASUN)? Be sure to catch this event on the TV screens around campus in the weeks to come as we were mandated to use Inkblot (the official ASUN event publicists)! Enjoy!

(Note: apparently the beginning part of the request was not captured where Barry Belmont (President ‘08 – ‘09) and Mary Hunton (President – current) described to the commission why we wanted to abolish them :/ … it is still funny nonetheless)

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Campus Discussions – “Victimless” CrimesPosted By: John Russell

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OM NOM NOMPosted By: John Russell

As I was buying bacon at WinCo to make this for the big game, I couldn’t help but notice the people in front of me with 3 shopping carts full of food totaling over 450 dollars… all paid for by food stamps.  I’m all for people workin’ the system (as the post tomorrow will indicate), but how did they do that?

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What would we do without the government…Posted By: Barry Belmont

What would we do without the government...

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Another Difficulty in Campus Involvement…Posted By: John Russell

Looking back on the brief experience I had with ASUN, I can’t help but laugh when the student officers and bureaucrats alike would have entire meetings trying to determine the reasons why people on campus do not become more involved with their affairs. Ignore for a moment their tarnished superiority complex or why the Students for Liberty can have more people in a room participating far more than the senate could ever achieve (with paid members), and instead consider a situation I had with a representative from the diversity commission.

Last week I primed my future posts on the repugnant moral premise the diversity movement unintentionally holds (like how the super elite humans (board of regents) are mandating for more less superior humans (“different” people) like some order request for more… lawnmowers… but more on this later) and I got an invitation from an ASUN representative to attend their meeting.  Charlie Jose invited me to go to the Unity Commission meeting:

if you would like to attend a Unity Commission meeting to voice your concerns, they are at 9:30pm on Wednesdays. Visitors are more than welcome. Please let me know, and I can put you on the agenda as a special guest of the audience. you can contact me at 702.339.3864 or vicepresident@asun.unr.edu.

I added this time to my calendar and I was all set to go with some club members tomorrow to sit in and learn what they are all about.  Their most recent event is “Sexual Awareness Week”, which seems to extend outside the realm of what I would consider diversity and I wanted to learn more.  However, upon further research, I find their page on the ASUN shitho– err… website which states:

WHEN: Every Tuesday at 7pm.
WHERE: 3rd floor of the Joe in the ASUN Presidents Conference Room.
WHY: We need all the help we can get to turn our goals of unity into reality.

I then go to their facebook page which does not give any information about their meetings at all.  So, I missed their meeting which was very disappointing considering diversity is a hot button item on campus right now (Sagebrush special, regents, etc.)  ASUN – if I, an extremely involved and active member on this campus cannot even find out about one of your events, what chance does the mainstream student have?   Pull yourself together (and don’t you dare cite your failure on lack of funds/bureaucrats).

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Diversity as Viewed by a Sample of UNRPosted By: Barry Belmont

This is not a joke. Try, as an academic exercise, to see why we think diversity initiatives are both counterproductive and a contemporary form of racism/xenophobia/prejudice of all kind. It tries to teach that You + I > Them for our “enlightened” thinking. This is straight from the Sagebrush whose recent issue we will probably be discussing at length.

But first: a sample.

“Diversity is a tolerance of all people and an understanding of different cultures.”

“I believe that diversity is the most important thing in the whole world.”

“Diversity is a collaboration of people of different backgrounds that come together.”

“I believe that the University of Nevada, Reno has a lot of diversity which is good for our generation.”

“Diversity is very important in our county, but it isn’t as represented as much as it could be.”

“We need to acknowledge other races, other cultures and we need to accept them.”

“I really believe that UNR doesn’t have enough diversity. It’s a lot of kids who look the same.”

“I believe that diversity is not recognized enough on campus. Not as much as it should be.”

“We really have to accept diversity. There’s no sense in having a garden of all the same flower.”

…yeah, people you go to school with said these things.

It’s one thing to “accept” differences among skin color and religion and life styles and sexual orientation and quite another to point at these things and say, You are different from me and I (in my exalted wisdom) am willing to let that be okay. The elitism inherent in the position of “accepting” in the sense that one “accepts diversity” is disturbing and unnecessary. One does not need to “accept” another student as “black” or “a man” or “vegetarian” anymore than one needs to “accept” that air is there. Diversity is all around us and, yes, an appreciation of the cultures of the world is potentially beneficial, but, like air, it goes without saying. Diversity is a word that has no place in any respectable society.

And correct me if I’m wrong, but we’re all equal right? Me = You. Me + You = Us. Me + You + You + You =Us. There is no Them.

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The Second Great Flaw of DemocracyPosted By: Barry Belmont

If you’re a boring guy like me with a little interest in the running of our school and a lot of time to spend on the internet, you’ve by now run across the VisLupiGang. Their topics are usually boring and their writing has that turgid feel of a first year law student trying too hard to impress the teacher whose office hours they have memorized (though I must admit, their last few posts have been enjoyable reads), but their comment sections are practically guaranteed to be flame wars of the lowest intellectual caliber.

And when you’re a boring guy like me, what else is there to do but to sit and smugly read those comments with an air of political superiority. Sure, we all like to think we’re smarter than other people when it comes to politics, but it is rare that any of us get to see this first hand.

Discussing the ASUN one anonymous poster quoting (and then responding to) another anonymous poster: “if you are not in ASUN, you are not doing anything for student government.” So I guess the $60 I paid to ASUN this semester was me doing nothing.

A sound, logical rebuttal to the tired “if you’re not part of the solution you’re part of the problem” fallacy. However, yet another anonymous poster responded with:

yes it was doing nothing you paid $60 dollars and just watched it go to people wanting to get involved, as you sit here and read about all the things they want to do with your 60 dollars. Get involved, because thats the only way your going to get your moneys worth.

Ahh, The Second Great Flaw of Democracy, you rear your ugly head again. [The First Great Flaw of Democracy of course being that the majority is not always right.] The SGFD is that in order to do anything with this system it necessitates that your must work within it. Hence, if you think working within a democracy is a corrupting process, how can this line of action be of any use to you? It is like your house is on fire and someone claims you’re at fault for it burning down if you don’t rush in and turn your shower on.

This flaw is just another example of a “Red Queen” effect wherein “it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place.” As Anon #3 said “Get involved, because thats the only way your going to get your moneys worth.” But that’s such a load of bull. Why is that the only way to get my money’s worth? What gives them the right to take money from me and then say they have the exclusive right to “giving it back” to me through their flawed system? That’s right, no right.

Oh democracy, the most likable of untenable systems. Unfair and unjust enough to go unnoticed by those willing to run as fast as they can to get nowhere. Once people clear the sweat from their eyes and realize you’re just a tyrannical treadmill that goes round and round, maybe, just maybe, they’ll have strength left to step off and walk away. All they need to do is stop trying so damn hard to keep up.

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