Comments on: A Libertarian Perspective on the Day of Ashura http://unrforliberty.com/2010/02/a-libertarian-perspective-on-the-day-of-ashura.html Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Stevebilliter http://unrforliberty.com/2010/02/a-libertarian-perspective-on-the-day-of-ashura.html/comment-page-1#comment-1477 Stevebilliter Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:24:00 +0000 http://unrforliberty.com/?p=1287#comment-1477 There is a spiritual power behind this bloodletting and fanaticism; the Bible calls him Satan, the fallen cherub that was tossed out of heaven. He delights in war and bloodshed destroying as much of God's creation as he can; Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. There is a spiritual power behind this bloodletting and fanaticism; the Bible calls him Satan, the fallen cherub that was tossed out of heaven. He delights in war and bloodshed destroying as much of God’s creation as he can;
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

]]> By: facebook-813259644 http://unrforliberty.com/2010/02/a-libertarian-perspective-on-the-day-of-ashura.html/comment-page-1#comment-634 facebook-813259644 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:55:05 +0000 http://unrforliberty.com/?p=1287#comment-634 Thanks for the link, I imagine it will shed light on some issues I have with libertarianism. Thanks for the link, I imagine it will shed light on some issues I have with libertarianism.

]]> By: Barry Belmont http://unrforliberty.com/2010/02/a-libertarian-perspective-on-the-day-of-ashura.html/comment-page-1#comment-632 Barry Belmont Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:45:36 +0000 http://unrforliberty.com/?p=1287#comment-632 While the issue of the "rights of children" is a huge debate in and of itself, I think I can bastardize just enough of it to try to get my point across. <br><br>Clearly adults (with a few exceptions) are capable of voluntary action. Obvious. And just as clearly babies are not. Somewhere in between people develop the ability to make conscious choices. There is no line we can point to and cross to become consenting adults.<br><br>However, Rothbard makes a great case for a child's ability to "homestead" their rights and thus become a consensual adult. To put it simply, he claims that once a child (probably a teen) is able to take care of themselves, indeed once they are able to claim their rights, they can become capable of asserting them. It seems semi-tautological, but it's fairly intuitive: if you aren't able stand, you probably aren't able to walk.<br><br>It's the kinda the same thing with rights. <br><br>Kinda.<br><br>I'm not nearly as eloquent as Rothbard is on this issue. I urge you to check out his opinion in The Ethics of Liberty, which I believe is the clearest explanation of the rights of children: <a href="http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics/fourteen.asp" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics/fourteen.asp</a>. While the issue of the “rights of children” is a huge debate in and of itself, I think I can bastardize just enough of it to try to get my point across.

Clearly adults (with a few exceptions) are capable of voluntary action. Obvious. And just as clearly babies are not. Somewhere in between people develop the ability to make conscious choices. There is no line we can point to and cross to become consenting adults.

However, Rothbard makes a great case for a child's ability to “homestead” their rights and thus become a consensual adult. To put it simply, he claims that once a child (probably a teen) is able to take care of themselves, indeed once they are able to claim their rights, they can become capable of asserting them. It seems semi-tautological, but it's fairly intuitive: if you aren't able stand, you probably aren't able to walk.

It's the kinda the same thing with rights.

Kinda.

I'm not nearly as eloquent as Rothbard is on this issue. I urge you to check out his opinion in The Ethics of Liberty, which I believe is the clearest explanation of the rights of children: http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics/fourteen.asp.

]]> By: facebook-813259644 http://unrforliberty.com/2010/02/a-libertarian-perspective-on-the-day-of-ashura.html/comment-page-1#comment-631 facebook-813259644 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:50:29 +0000 http://unrforliberty.com/?p=1287#comment-631 Why are children not capable of voluntary consent, and adults are? At what point is someone no longer a child, how do we know this point, and why do special privileges come with it?<br><br>Just some questions I'm posing. Libertarianism or Anarchism seems to be the most viable political position to me, but I still have lots of questions about it -- especially about the right to property. I assume someone in the club could help me out with my questions at some point.<br><br>Andrew H Why are children not capable of voluntary consent, and adults are? At what point is someone no longer a child, how do we know this point, and why do special privileges come with it?

Just some questions I'm posing. Libertarianism or Anarchism seems to be the most viable political position to me, but I still have lots of questions about it — especially about the right to property. I assume someone in the club could help me out with my questions at some point.

Andrew H

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